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 Post subject: Re: Anyone catching Steelhead in the stamp?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:47 am 
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dirtdog67 wrote:
Nice work summer steel, say hi to Nick for me, it has been awhile..cheers d-dog :D




Roger that, heading back up next Monday for another look around.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone catching Steelhead in the stamp?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:01 am 
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Any info as of late??? What did the water do with the last bit of sky water??

Nog, sorry I have not been in touch, work has been crazy.. Will touch bases towards the end of the weekend. D-Dog :D


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone catching Steelhead in the stamp?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:14 pm 
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dirtdog67 wrote:
Nog, sorry I have not been in touch, work has been crazy.. Will touch bases towards the end of the weekend. D-Dog :D


Sounds Good Dawg. Make it during the week if you can though Buddy! The Weekend Warriors are already out in HORDES! :shock:

Cheers,
Nog


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone catching Steelhead in the stamp?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:25 pm 
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Nice to see the fish are comming in. I never used much other than artifical single eggs, spin and glows, pink worms or gooy bobs do you think you any of you guys that catch a lot of fish could give me some advice.
Thanks ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone catching Steelhead in the stamp?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:50 pm 
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Little Barbs wrote:
Nice to see the fish are coming in. I never used much other than artificial single eggs, spin and glows, pink worms or gooey bobs do you think you any of you guys that catch a lot of fish could give me some advice.
Thanks ;)





All of the stuff you mentioned works just fine. Some things work better at certain times of year than others, single eggs in Oct-Nov. for instance, but overall you just have to keep covering the water. Don't be afraid to change up your presentation & go back & cover the same water again. Here is a good example, last week, we fished the Girl Guide pool at the top of the rifle range. We parked the sled just below the bucket & hovered down to Beaver Creek. There were three of us slinging roe, roe sacks w/shrimp & shrimp tails. Spent 20 minutes covering every inch of water & never even had a nibble. Ran back up to the top & decided to throw the Hot Shot plugs out so we could have a sit down for a coke & some deer pepperoni. Within 30 seconds of putting the metallic green plug out, it got smoked!! Nice little hatchery winter run buck about 7-8 lbs was on its way to the BBQ. Definitely a territorial strike, as that same fish ignored all of the bait we had run through there previously. Now don't get me wrong, bait is still going to out produce anything else, 12 of the 13 fish we hooked last week were on bait, BUT, not ALL of the fish are interested in bait ALL of the time. Sometimes, things like plugs, pink worms, jigs, spinners & spin'n'glos, will elicit that ferocious territorial strike when all else fails.
A few other things to keep in mind is your presentation. We generally only use 10-12 lb test Maxima or Seaguar leader & #1 or #2 Gammys. I personally don't bother sharpening hooks anymore. When it gets less than sticky sharp on my thumbnail, I tie on a new leader.Gammys are much too hard to sharpen properly, as they are chemically sharpened to a cone shape. Filing three sides of the hook flat may leave you with a hook that FEELS sharp, but will not penetrate the fishes mouth properly. You only get so many bites in a day, & I would hate to miss any because of a 10-15 cent hook. Leader length is around 2-3 ft. & we try & cover ALL of the water, including the shallow areas near shore. Many times, I've seen anglers walk up to a pool & instantly start wading out into the water. If they only knew how many fish they have spooked this way.I have lost count of how many fish we have caught this year in a foot or less of water. Remember, fish from the shore out, then go wading on in.
As for weights & floats, its all personal preference. I use slinkys, Nick uses split shot & Peter uses pencil lead. We all catch our share of fish, so it all comes down to what you are comfortable with. I personally like the slinkys because they almost never get hung up, & when they do, you can usually wiggle them free. I am still using the same one that I had on in November & it is still working fine. I find that not only is it cheaper not losing a lot of lead, but that I spend more time fishing than re-tying my gear.
Anyways, getting late & as we are heading out with Nick tomorrow & Monday, I need to get some sleep. Will post a report tomorrow or Monday night.

SS


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone catching Steelhead in the stamp?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:57 am 
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Thanks for the great advice. I never heard of a slinky. Is it something you make or do you buy them? I use pencil lead pushed into sergical tubing at the swivel. The problem I have is exactly what you describe. I am spending way to much time retying gear back on after leaving it stuck to the bottom. Can you explain a slinky to me?
Thanks :?:


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone catching Steelhead in the stamp?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:42 pm 
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Had a decent day on the stamp today but the river came up ALOT while we were there and it went from clear water to chocolate by the end of the day. Still raining... I'm sure SS will leave a full report.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone catching Steelhead in the stamp?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:06 pm 
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Little Barbs wrote:
Thanks for the great advice. I never heard of a slinky. Is it something you make or do you buy them? I use pencil lead pushed into sergical tubing at the swivel. The problem I have is exactly what you describe. I am spending way to much time retying gear back on after leaving it stuck to the bottom. Can you explain a slinky to me?
Thanks :?:



No Problem, here is a pic of one:

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Essentially, they are made from parachute cord & #4 buck lead pellets. We generally find 10-14 pellets per slinky is adequate, with 12 being a good all round average. Making them is fairly simple; first cut a length of cord a couple of inches longer than you need. Next, heat one end, we use those disposable BBQ lighters ( easy to light ) until a couple of melted blobs appear,trying NOT to let the cord catch fire. Squeeze the two melted ends together with a pair of needlenose pliers, flat sides, no grooves. Once you have got one end sealed up, start placing the pellets in the other end. Slide them all the way to the sealed end one by one until you have the desired number in the cord. Make sure to leave a little space for the pellets to wiggle around, this is what helps to free the slinky from the bottom most of the time. When you have the desired number of pellets in the cord, trim off the excess frayed material with a pair of sharp scissors & repeat the melting process. You now have one finished slinky. There are many ways to attach them to your rigging. I like to use #4 berkley snaps & #4 or 5 3-way swivels. You can also use duo snaps or quick change snap swivels, but I find they aren't as strong as the berkley snaps. The kicker with the berkleys is they are harder to find & more expensive. I believe Pacific Net & Twine carries them, I'm sure RVP could help you out there. The easiest way to attach them is to squeeze the berkley snap with a pair of needlenose pliers & insert one of the open ends into the slinky just below the melted part. This is where the material is the strongest & will almost never rip out. Then attach the 3-way swivel to the berkley snap & you are done. Note the way the slinky is hanging from the berkley snap in the pic. This position will give the least problems & can fish for sometimes weeks at a time. You can also attach them so they slide on your mainline, essentially the same way as you would pencil lead.
I'm pretty sure you can buy them pre-made as well, but just remember to get a variety of sizes & experiment with the different weights to find the ones you prefer. I can pretty much guarantee you with these things as your weights, you will be spending a lot less time breaking off gear on the bottom. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone catching Steelhead in the stamp?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:22 am 
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some excellent info SS - I'm sure you'll get a few bookmarks for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone catching Steelhead in the stamp?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:17 pm 
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I gotta tell you SS your a good sport to share information like that. I am going to make some slinkys. Sounds like a winner. My son is comming home for Christmas and he is looking forward to getting out for a fish a couple of times. Maybe we will see you on the river.
Thanks :)


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